Eddie Mair chairs a debate at Chatham House in London on the progress of the conflict in Afghanistan.
Some expert observers say 'It's over; the Taliban have won the war'.
Others believe neither side can win.
Yet all agree that the coalition's work in the country is not going well and that the end must be in sight.
Panellists include Peter W.
Galbraith, outspoken critic of the 2009 presidential elections in Afghanistan and Lieutenant General Sir Graeme Lamb who was working, until recently, as a senior advisor to US General McChrystal.
Producer: Sue Davies.