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In this positive, inspiring and envy making Conversation series Clare English speaks to 5 people who have been brave enough to bin the day job in favour of doing something they really, really want to do with their lives. But how easy is it, does it always mean a financial compromise and downsizing of their lives, how does it impact on the people around them and is it just a selfish, self-centred option usually born of a midlife crisis which most of us can't seriously consider because we have more sense of responsibility to those we love? We'll also determine just what the difference is between a career and a vocation and question whether it just slips back into a job once you've been doing it for a while? This week, Clare speaks to IT Consultant about his desire to ditch his career and follow his calling to become a wilderness retreat guide and why he's not quite ready to do it.